16 March 2013

Harry Potter HFriday - Part the Turning Point



When I first read this book in the year 2000 (holy crap), I blissfully charged through up until this moment:



Then a very strange thing happened. My forehead got all prickly, my jaw dropped open, and this strange salty liquid started leaking from the corners of my eyes. And it didn’t stop until the giant Hex Fest 2k happened on the Hogwarts Express.

So the last quarter of book 4 is the big turning point in the series, right? And it’s going to be hard for me to keep things light because I have ALL THE FEELINGS about this bit. First, how genius is JK? (We already know the answer to this, her difficulties with math and dragon heartstring farming firmly aside.) Cedric’s character arc is utterly perfect; he’s set up as this generic do-gooder, and it’s not till he and Harry end up together in the center of the maze that he gains some depth. Along with Harry, we start to genuinely like Cedric for himself, and then JUST KIDDING!



And then the echoes come out of Voldemort’s wand and Harry’s dad shows up – is it weird to anyone else that James died after Lily? Hmm cultural doxaaaaaa! – and then his MUM and for some reason, that’s more heart-wrenching.



Sooooo veritaserum – JK is super-good at planting definitions of magical stuff earlier in the books so when it’s dramatically relevant, she doesn’t have to spend time explaining – and I really hope someone covered what a freaking GREAT teacher Barty Crouch Jr. was, dark motives aside, because dang. Fudge is a jerk, but it’s kind of understandable (though unacceptable) from his point of view; how many people do we all know who will stick their fingers in their ears and shriek that they can’t hear sense?  But seriously, dementors as protection, Fudge?



But then this:

“He had no memory of ever being hugged like this, as if by a mother.”

That’s where I lose it, every time. I have to go make a fresh cup of tea and blow my nose and ugly cry for a minute because how tragic is it to get to fourteen years old and never have been hugged by a mom? Just TYPING that sentence makes my throat swell and my eyes burn.  Couple that with the speech Dumbledore gives at the feast later when he says, “Remember Cedric Diggory” and I want to stand up and say, YES! I will remember! My emotions, JK, you manipulate them so hard.

And then I cried.

Quick query: why can't Harry see the thestrels at the end of book 4? Someone has surely explained this anomaly...

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I think the Thestral thing is that Harry wasn't really old enough to remember *seeing* either of his parents die. (All dementor-induced memories aside)

Yes, I think all of us had ALL THE FEELS for this book.

I think one of the Kayleighs (sorry, cannot remember which) had a thing in her post about Barty Crouch as teacher. Raises interesting ethical questions, no? He's not as good of a teacher as Lupin, but he's perhaps a more effective one and taught the kids more. Perhaps the best DADA teacher in their Hogwarts career except for the one coming up in Book 6.

RE: Lily and James coming out of the wand in the wrong order: the first printing of the US edition had it wrong--not sure if the UK or other first printings did, but it was corrected in later editions.
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Reverse order: OHHHHH interesting about Lily and James - the Jim Dale audio must be off of the first printing also; I listened to the final several chapters of this one, but I just checked and my copy (first US printing as well) does still have James coming out first, and he even says "your mother's coming... she wants to see you..." Ooops!

I do not even remember the DADA teacher in book 6! Something to look forward to! And yes, I'm reading through the posts right now, and BCJr is a seriously effective teacher. He gave HRH their start as teen Aurors! Really good blending in there, fella.

AAAAAND the thestrels - I agree that he was probably too young before, but at the going-home point of book 4, Harry had seen Cedric die already, and that's the reasoning Luna gives for him seeing the thestrels at the beginning(ish) of book 5! Very strange.
Yes, that was Australian Kayleigh. Australian Kayleigh knows what's up.

I love that fake Moody put the Auror idea in HRH's head. How hilarious is Ron, trying to get Moody to say he could be an Auror too? Oh, Ron.
My ears were burning!

I've been thinking about Crouch/Moody as teacher and I think he's the best DADA teacher, because while Lupin was awesome, it was almost more a defence against magical creatures class rather than dark arts. I know the creatures were all supposed to lure people to their deaths, but they probably could have learned about them from Hagrid instead. But of course, then you get into the implication of Couch/Moody as teacher - can he be good when he's evil/mad?
Don't the thestrals only take them INTO Hogwarts and not out of it? If they do then all I can offer you is that JK hadn't thought about invisible creatures that you can only see because of SAD THINGS.
I remember JK giving an interview to explain the thestral thing. She said that Harry didn't really remember his parents death cos he was too young. Then with Cedric, the murder happened to close to when he left Hogwarts that he hadn't processed the death yet, and therefore didn't see them.

Or in other words "I forgot he would have seen them, so here's a shaky reason why he didn't."
RE: blissfully charging until emotional ambush --- RIGHT?! It's all Dragons! and Tasks! And Yule Balls! and Wand Innuendo! and then BAM. All sad all the time.

I love that everyone's bringing up the Mrs. Weasley hug. Reading what you say about it makes me so. effing. angry at stupid Petunia. What in the heck? What in the HECK? You fail at existing. More Howlers for you.
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I should have added a roller coaster gif.That is what the end of book 4 feels like - I cry, and then I laugh a little, and then I cry and laugh and cry and laugh-cry at the end with Fred and George getting the money from Harry...

PETUNIA! What the HELL. There is a ranty post in my future about motherhood in Harry Potter. We may need 2 weeks of wrap-up.
I thought I remember some part where it was explained that Harry couldn't see the thestrals at the end of book 4 because he was still in shock from Cedric's death. Which is a lame excuse but there we have it.

And TRUTH that Lil Crouch was a great DADA teacher. Almost as good as Lupin. I wonder if he showed them the Unforgiveable Curses just because those are the only good curses he really knows, being evil and all? Cause otherwise you'd think he wouldn't go teaching these kids (like Harry) how to defend against them...
The end of this book and all the feels. Way to rule the manipulations, JK. Everything is so happy and fun and kinda dangerous but in a fun way and then BAM nothing is fun and everything is sad. I am so afraid to read the rest of this series.
I seriously didn't let myself feel HOW incredibly sad the ending was until we Gchatted about it last Saturday. Then I was sitting at my kitchen table sort of whimpering over my phone screen. I guess maybe I was blocking some things out...just a little. So I guess maybe I owe you a therapy fee now.
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You can pay me in alcohol when we hang out. :D
"Quick query: why can't Harry see the thestrels at the end of book 4? Someone has surely explained this anomaly..." THIS MAKES ME SO MAD TOO. I will complain copiously about it when we get to that part because come on!
What happened to Cedric was a turning point in the series for me too. Who knew that Cedric would go on to a second life as a vampire? ;)

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